4 November 2009
Group2: Introductions Reflection
Looking at our introductions, I first noticed a generational span from Amanda who is a little younger than my son with Wendy and Dean in the middle (I suppose 30’s) to me approaching retirement. At Luther I feel more akin to the “older” women in the distributed learning M DIV program who put off the call to ministry. During J-term last year in the CYF core class, there was only one woman who I suppose is a bit younger than I so we felt odd when the other students remarked on our ages as if we were too old for the program. CYF program seems mostly geared to youth rather than children’s ministry with children being more tolerant of old people. Wendy was in that class so perhaps she can tell if I am being too sensitive to ageism. I have started reading Joan Chittister’s book “The Gift of Years” so perhaps that is why I am thinking of the age issue. To quote the book “What am I when I am not what I used to do? And does anybody really care? And what does that have to do with growing into God?”
I appreciate Amanda’s honesty about being an atheist because there are a lot of people who act like there is no God but won’t call themselves atheists. As a young person, she has struggled with her faith and emerged stronger for it. I wonder if RCIA helped for being an investment of a year in faith formation as a lot of other Christians switch denominations easily without understanding the doctrinal differences and certainly without the time commitment or intensity.
For all of us, our families played a major role in faith formation especially our mothers. Perhaps, it is different for males but I recall reading that if the father attends church that is a great incentive for the children, especially boys to continue attending. From Dean and Wendy, I get the idea that faith has to be lived to have a continuing impact. For me it was more a tradition to maintain until my mother’s death and the aging process made me turn from concentrating on my career working long hours or taking work home in the expectation of winning my boss’ approval. I made my work an idol without even realizing what I was doing. I still attended church but didn’t spend much time with God. Looking back over my career, I don’t think it was worth all the time I put in to gain a slight advantage over others only to feel dissatisfied now that I wasn’t a better mother to my son now grown or more involved at church. Now I am working on my prayer life and spiritual formation and going beyond intellectual knowledge to experiencing a devotional life in prayer and lectio divina. Reading Parker Palmer’s “To Know as We are Known” really resonated with me because I am largely an objectivist due to my training in science without realizing that is at the heart of my dissatisfaction with work until I read his book. I also realize how my introduction contains a lot of “doing” things with children rather than “being” so I still have a lot of work to do on my objectivism. I have always liked studying history to understand myself and others better and now understand how science could be better taught through the history of science and as the process that scientists go through to discover new knowledge by working with peers (though when I was a research technician, I saw a lot of cutthroat competition to publish results). I had a wonderful biology teacher in high school whose passion inspired me to earn a degree in biology. Palmer’s book has inspired me to share these thoughts with this group.
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5 November 2009 at 8:01 pm
Indeed, RCIA was a great investment of my time. I really learned about my faith and found God truly for the first time.
6 November 2009 at 1:00 am
Thank you for sharing and introducing your group. I see that for your group, your moms had the greatest influence on your faith lives. For me it was different – it was my dad. He really was the one that went to church with us each Sunday after my mom fell away from the church.
6 November 2009 at 8:48 am
group4 says...
Group 2 really has rich group experience in their faith journey. There were many twists and turns. It will serve you well in your ministry. Karen Treat, group 4
6 November 2009 at 1:31 pm
group5 says...
Wow, what a fascinating group. It’s always really cool to see someone who really applies what they read, and makes a text their own. I felt the same way when reading Palmer, it really energized me to teach in a different and exciting way. Have fun in your group!
6 November 2009 at 2:14 pm
Hello Group two!
Can someone tell me what RCIA stands for? I am assuming it has something to do with Roman Catholic… something and having to take classes when becoming Catholic??
On a personal level I connected with the author of this post in the comment,”I also realize how my introduction contains a lot of “doing” things with children rather than “being” so I still have a lot of work to do on my objectivism”
As a mother and a student, I struggle with being with my children. To be fully present in the moment with them. Right now my son is sitting next to me watching some cooking show on PBS and giggling about it. Sometimes, this is the best it gets.
Rebecca
6 November 2009 at 10:02 pm
group3 says...
Our group also has a generational span similar to your group. I found your comments about age and CYF to be very interesting. I will be looking for the book “Gift of Years” as a good source. Dianne Derrick Group 3
6 November 2009 at 10:32 pm
RCIA stands for rite of Christian initiation for adults into the Roman Catholic Church.
7 November 2009 at 1:28 pm
group3 says...
Faith seems to be more and more about the family and less and less about the church. This meaning the church is not depended on as the sole faith builder, but the family also has/needs to take an active role. Much of my faith was built because my mom forced me to go to service and be involved with church outside of just Sunday’s. This has given me a basis for the way faith will grow in my family! Thanks for the thoughts.
8 November 2009 at 2:43 pm
hessma says...
Mary Hess writes… I think we need to help the faith communities we work with move into an understanding of religious education that is broader than Sunday School. And we need to help people think about faith formation in ways that sees church as more than a building! These are great questions to be thinking about as we move into Maria Harris’ book.