Comments on: Struggling to respond… http://www.religioused.org/tensegrities/archives/1840 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:08:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: hessma http://www.religioused.org/tensegrities/archives/1840/comment-page-1#comment-655 hessma Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:05:53 +0000 http://www.religioused.org/tensegrities/archives/1840#comment-655 You all are so supportive! But I'm also very much interested in reaching out to people who, for a variety of reasons, don't begin with the same assumptions. That was part of the intent of my book in the first place, and partly why it's so painful to discover that -- at least for one reader -- I didn't succeed. Blessings, Mary You all are so supportive! But I’m also very much interested in reaching out to people who, for a variety of reasons, don’t begin with the same assumptions. That was part of the intent of my book in the first place, and partly why it’s so painful to discover that — at least for one reader — I didn’t succeed. Blessings, Mary

]]> By: scribbler http://www.religioused.org/tensegrities/archives/1840/comment-page-1#comment-654 scribbler Sat, 30 Jun 2007 14:32:23 +0000 http://www.religioused.org/tensegrities/archives/1840#comment-654 I can't agree more with what Tony said, as what you approach the conversation with are as different as night and day. This debate is long-standing in the literacy field (aka - whole langauge vs. phonics as reading instructional methods/processes) and with my past experience in this field I know how much of a struggle it can be. Afterall, how do you begin a responsive conversation with one(s) who's position is polar opposite? I pray that you can boldly articulate and convey your position in a way that enables the critic to truly hear what you say and engage in dialog - and if not the critic the larger community. Peace. Kim I can’t agree more with what Tony said, as what you approach the conversation with are as different as night and day. This debate is long-standing in the literacy field (aka – whole langauge vs. phonics as reading instructional methods/processes) and with my past experience in this field I know how much of a struggle it can be. Afterall, how do you begin a responsive conversation with one(s) who’s position is polar opposite? I pray that you can boldly articulate and convey your position in a way that enables the critic to truly hear what you say and engage in dialog – and if not the critic the larger community. Peace. Kim

]]> By: tonylorenzen http://www.religioused.org/tensegrities/archives/1840/comment-page-1#comment-653 tonylorenzen Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:25:32 +0000 http://www.religioused.org/tensegrities/archives/1840#comment-653 Mary, It sounds as if you're in a situation akin to having a discussion about scripture with a Biblical fundamentalist. You're not going to get anywhere because you begin the conversation with a set of mutually exclusive assumptions about the text. You can't have a discussion about the documentary hypothesis with somebody who believes every jot and tittle was dictated by the Almighty. Mary, when it comes the religious education, you're playing jazz and they're still reading the score. “There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell them.” "We all do 'do, re, mi,' but you have got to find the other notes yourself.” and “If you have to ask what jazz is, you'll never know.” - Louis Armstrong However, Satchmo also said: “I never tried to prove nothing, just wanted to give a good show. My life has always been my music, it's always come first, but the music ain't worth nothing if you can't lay it on the public. The main thing is to live for that audience, 'cause what you're there for is to please the people.” And that's where I hear you're at now. Know I'm praying for you, as always. Tony gotta love Satchmo Mary,
It sounds as if you’re in a situation akin to having a discussion about scripture with a Biblical fundamentalist. You’re not going to get anywhere because you begin the conversation with a set of mutually exclusive assumptions about the text.

You can’t have a discussion about the documentary hypothesis with somebody who believes every jot and tittle was dictated by the Almighty.

Mary, when it comes the religious education, you’re playing jazz and they’re still reading the score.

“There are some people that if they don’t know, you can’t tell them.”

“We all do ‘do, re, mi,’ but you have got to find the other notes yourself.”

and

“If you have to ask what jazz is, you’ll never know.”

- Louis Armstrong

However, Satchmo also said:

“I never tried to prove nothing, just wanted to give a good show. My life has always been my music, it’s always come first, but the music ain’t worth nothing if you can’t lay it on the public. The main thing is to live for that audience, ’cause what you’re there for is to please the people.”

And that’s where I hear you’re at now. Know I’m praying for you, as always.

Tony

gotta love Satchmo

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